16 March 2021
Curious to know more about our immersive collaborative software, the Good Morning Business edition of BFM Business interviewed Benjamin Atlani, WiXar’s CEO
A big thank you to Sandra Gandoin, Christophe Jakubyszyn and the entire BFM Business team for having us on their set.
Watch the full report (6 mn) in french and/or find the full transcript.
Christophe Jakubyszyn: And what’s interesting is that you are targeting people with few or no qualifications, for whom these tools are extremely effective. For example, a maintenance worker who has to change his routine to adapt to the COVID and go in particular to places where disinfection is required is particularly well suited.
Benjamin Atlani: That’s it. We have scenarios like that, and this idea of inclusion is very important in our desire at WiXar to use virtual reality to good effect for human learning. Let’s quote Thomas Pesquet, whom I like very much, who uses virtual reality to train to go to Mars. The idea is to make this technology available to everyone. We are working with a standard, the Falc standard (Easy to Read and Understand). In other words, in a few minutes, someone who is not used to this type of technology, who is not used to training, will be able to take situations into account in two or three minutes and move quickly.
Christophe Jakubyszyn: How does it work? You say that you have 360 cameras “that we can lend to our clients”, then you charge a subscription fee? Do you charge for filming a particular scenario?
Benjamin Atlani: The business model is a SaaS software business model, which means that it involves a subscription. It starts at €29/month and depending on the number of experiences and the number of learners, it will evolve with options, etc. We have the possibility, of course, of using partners who will do the filming themselves, or ourselves and we will help the client to film.
Christophe Jakubyszyn: This will be extra ?
Benjamin Atlani: That will be in addition, of course. We do training, in two days, to train our customers.
Sandra Gandoin: Your clients are SNCF Réseau for example, the Saint Joseph hospital, the CCI of Nice Côte d’Azur…what kind of training scenarios do you do for these clients for example?
Benjamin Atlani: There are two types of scenarios that we do. Firstly, these are scenarios that will replace and improve the classic training scenarios. We will optimise the training very quickly, as I said earlier. These are risk-hunting type training sessions, which we have been able to do for certain clients. Then, we have other training, newer, which has been brought about or accelerated in any case by the crisis. And here, for example, we are in the business of “showing a place in a different way”, getting together. We call it a Learning Expedition. Meeting in a place with your colleagues, visiting it with them, at a distance of course. All together in a collaborative way, since WiXar allows it.
Christophe Jakubyszyn: How many clients are there today?
Benjamin Atlani: We have a dozen clients today. You have to understand that the company is still in the beginning. But it’s true that we’ve used these 2 ½ years, almost 3 years, to do R&D, that’s about 30,000 hours of work with a PhD student and a research laboratory to create this software which is intended to be simple to use. It’s very complicated to make it simple, we worked a lot on the design to make it very fluid when you’re not a coder. In October (2020), we started commercialising the software.
Christophe Jakubyszyn: Last question, do you manage to certify these courses? Have you found agreements with certifying bodies, for example? Benjamin Atlani: We are not a training organisation. Our role is really that of a tool. But we do discuss with training organisations. We are effectively aligned with the Qualiopi standards, for example. That is to say, to be able to provide data. We can imagine that the idea with a tool like that is to bring up data and make it available like an LMS (Learning Management System). WiXar is ultimately an immersive LMS.
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